To prepare for Black Hat and DEF CON this week, we turned to our old friend Katie Moussouris of Luta Security, to talk about the changes in the conferences over the years and how the culture has evolved. We also talked about the current discussion in the security community about vulnerability sales and bug collisions and the panel that Katie will be on at Black Hat addressing this topic and the concept of scarce or dense bugs in an application.

Music by Chris Gonsalves and Ken Montigny

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